
June 30, 2025
The Wildlife Insider: How Robert Weaver Solves the Problems You Hope You Never Have
Jonathan Breeden: [00:00:00] On this week’s episode of The Best of Johnston County Podcast, our guest is Robert Weaver. The founder and owner of Freedom Wildlife Solutions and Pest Control in Clayton, North Carolina. We talked to Robert about how he got into the wildlife trapping business after he got out of the military.
What some of the things he did, one of his first jobs was how to get Birds Outta Walmarts and he tells us how he did that, and then how he, why and how he started his own business and the services they provide. We talk about how to get squirrels outta your attic. We talk about bats, we talk about snakes in your house, we talk about termites.
It is enough to make you not sleep at night, but it really was an interesting conversation. And we also talk a little bit about pest control. So if you’re interested in how people get stuff out of your attic, how these animals get into your attic, what they can and can’t do, listen in. I think you’ll find it interesting.
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Jonathan Breeden: Hello and welcome to another edition of The Best of Johnston County Podcast. I’m your host, Jonathan Breeden, and on today’s episode we have Robert Weaver, the owner and founder of Freedom Wildlife Solutions, and Pest Control.
We’re gonna talk a little bit to Robert about how he got into the pest control business and why he also offers animal removal services, including birds and squirrels and raccoons and bats, and who knows, maybe some alligators down the road he said he might get into. So that is a unique thing. You don’t see many people offer that.
Talk a little bit about that. Maybe get a couple interesting stories of where animals have [00:02:00] appeared, where they shouldn’t have been. And I think you’ll find it interesting. So keep listening. But before we get to that, I would like you to like, follow and subscribe to this podcast wherever you see it, whether it’s on Apple, YouTube, Spotify, LinkedIn, TikTok, Instagram, or any of the other social media channels of The Best of Johnston County Podcast.
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If you love Johnston County as much as I do. This is the podcast for you. Welcome, Robert.
Robert Weaver: Thank you. Thank you for having me here.
Jonathan Breeden: Well, no problem. We met through Launch JoCo and a couple chamber events. I wanted to have you come in. I find it fascinating that anybody that actually makes a living trapping things, but somebody has to do it.
So tell the audience what’s your name, where you’re from, what you do?
Robert Weaver: I’m Rob Weaver, owner of Freedom Wildlife Solutions and Pest Control here in Clayton, [00:03:00] North Carolina. We do everything when it comes to pest and wildlife control. We remove the wildlife, we treat general purpose or general treatment for pest control termites, anything from ants all the way up to raccoons in the attic.
We can take care of it.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh man. So how did you get started? I know you were in the military at some point, I think. When were you in the military?
Robert Weaver: So I joined in 2002, just after 9/11. I served until 2014 on active duty on that side when I left in 2014. Moved out this way from Fort Bragg.
And kind of fell backwards into what I do. I worked for another company doing it.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: So you got a job at, was it wildlife and pest or just Wildlife? And you added Pest as you started yours.
Robert Weaver: So it was actually just birds.
Jonathan Breeden: Birds.
Robert Weaver: So, yeah. So I worked for a company that all they did was bird removal. If you ever go into a Walmart, you’ll see like the birds flying around in the Walmart. My job was to show up and get those birds outta Walmart within three [00:04:00] hours. So we would, at all the commercial sites, we’d put up temporary nets, we’d catch ’em all, remove ’em. As we went through the less licensing process for the wildlife, I ended up getting mine and asking the company could I do everything else on the side, nothing to, you know, compete with them.
All the residential type wildlife work, and they approved me for that. And then it kind of took off. It wasn’t even six months to a year. It was going so fast for me that I had to have a conversation with my wife. Whether we are gonna just go down that path or if I was gonna keep trying to balance it out, but something had to give at that point.
Jonathan Breeden: Right. You were too busy.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: So it’s nice that you started as a side business.
Robert Weaver: Yes.
Jonathan Breeden: And it became a full-time business. So how exactly do you get a bird out of a Walmart?
Robert Weaver: So there’s a specialized netting system you would put up in there. It’s a live catch netting. You put it up and they are about 30 feet long, you attach it to the rafters in the ceiling and when they fly, you figure out their natural flight paths. ’cause every animal has a natural path. [00:05:00] You put it up in between and it catches ’em. You lower the net, you put ’em in a box and take ’em outside.
Jonathan Breeden: Huh. So do you have to have like a boom lift to get up to the, I mean, Walmarts are tall?
Robert Weaver: Yeah, no, we are using a specialized pole that was for the company. They have patented that product that they use over there.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh, okay.
Robert Weaver: But it was a special pole. It was a one man operation. I was able to put a net up and I would have a net up and running within 15, 20 minutes of being in the store.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. And then the bird would fly into it and you’d get it.
Robert Weaver: Yep. And you would lower it down and then pull the it outta the net. The hardest part was getting ’em untangled outta the net and, but you’d get ’em outside and let ’em go.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. I wonder if, well, what’s the best way to get birds out of my garage? Because I have had a hell of a time with birds in my garage.
Robert Weaver: Daytime is a little bit more difficult as the evening hours come in. Well, you wanna try to keep the garage more dark and outside, more light. And that’s the biggest thing is a lot of times you’ll notice they’ll fly out the window, stuff like that.
Jonathan Breeden: Right.
Robert Weaver: If they ever get into a house, ’cause they’re looking for escape routes, right? So if you can get your garage as dark as [00:06:00] possible, leave the door open so the light that it sees is outside, that’s gonna be your best case scenario to get that.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay? Okay.
Robert Weaver: If you can’t get it, that’s where we come in. ‘Cause we can come in there and we’re, my guys will go in and just catch it and get it outta your garage and figure out how to keep ’em out.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay? Alright. So. So like dusk, it’ll fly out. Maybe if I just keep my garage door open.
Robert Weaver: Yeah. So putting lights out. That’s why I say like right at those hours it’s a little difficult on before they go to roost versus that and go to sleep.
Jonathan Breeden: Right?
Robert Weaver: But when they see that, that big light, obviously keeping the door open at all times, letting them
Jonathan Breeden: Right
Robert Weaver: get that opportunity to go out.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: But if they can see those brighter areas, they’re gonna go for it.
Jonathan Breeden: Huh. That’s interesting.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Yeah. I mean, I know they’ve flown into windows and that kind of stuff.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: The so their eyesight, I guess bird’s, eyesight is not good in general.
Robert Weaver: They don’t,
Jonathan Breeden: Eagles do, but I’m talking about most birds,
Robert Weaver: so they, their eyesight’s actually very good, but it’s like they can’t see glass, they don’t understand those types of [00:07:00] ideas. If you’ve ever been in your house and had one hit a window,
Jonathan Breeden: right,
Robert Weaver: you understand that very well. But they just panic when they get in there. So they’re just trying to figure out and hit everything and they don’t know what’s kind of going on. It’s an unknown surrounding, you know,
Jonathan Breeden: right
Robert Weaver: for them. So they letting it open. You can try to harass ’em out. If you get like a bag on a, like a regular shopping bag on a pole
Jonathan Breeden: Right
Robert Weaver: will be enough to kind of guide them is what you’re wanting to do.
Jonathan Breeden: Right. I gotcha you. Okay. Well that’s interesting. So what other animals you do bats?
Robert Weaver: We do bats, we do well, we do it all. So bats are big right now. We’re in the a season where we’re not actually allowed to remove them unless they’re in a living area of the house.
So if one got it in the middle of the night, we can come get that one out. But if you have ’em in your attic right now, it’s the breeding seasons that are protected here in North Carolina.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: So from May 1st to July 31st, they kind of have to stay, but then we can kick ’em out after that. Bats is a big project though, because they can get into anywhere pretty much I [00:08:00] can stick my pinky
Jonathan Breeden: okay
Robert Weaver: throughout a house. So we do really good inspections on the house. We go ahead and find anywhere they can kind of, they can get in, we can seal off any areas that they’re not actively using in the meantime during this period. But then,
Jonathan Breeden: okay
Robert Weaver: once August 1st comes out, we are able to go ahead and put the valves in and kick ’em out.
Jonathan Breeden: What about squirrels?
Robert Weaver: Yeah, we handle squirrels. We have two big seasons for squirrels. One in the spring, one in the fall. Typically homeowners deal with them during those breeding periods when they’re going at nesting. They’ll find ’em in the attics. They, we actually, it’s interesting ’cause you can see how long squirrels have been really growing up in houses, depending on the nest that they build within the attics.
If it’s a first generation ever using an attic, they’ll bring a lot of materials from outside into the house. So there’ll be a lot of leaves and twigs up in the attic that they brought in. As the generations have learned that houses are a nice place for them to have they’re young. You’ll notice that all they use is the insulation in the [00:09:00] attic at that point.
So they have shifted completely from natural materials to manmade materials.
Jonathan Breeden: How about that?
Robert Weaver: Yeah,
Jonathan Breeden: that is unbelievable.
Robert Weaver: Yeah it’s quite an interesting thing, seeing them do that.
Jonathan Breeden: So if as a homeowner, how can I prevent squirrels and bats from getting into my attic and my crawl spaces?
Robert Weaver: Yeah. So squirrels is gonna be the easier of the two to prevent it on your own. Squirrels be most most houses that we find squirrels in has a tree or a bush touching the roof line. It gives it that direct route onto the roof. Once it finds its way on the roof, it’ll find a way in like the teeth on a squirrels like having a chainsaw built into you. They can get into areas.
They just need the opportunity. You take away the opportunity by removing trees and bushes from away from the house. You greatly reduce the risk of dealing with squirrels.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: Bats on the other hand is a little bit more difficult if they move into a neighborhood. They’re just gonna bounce from house to house.
As companies like ours kick ’em out, [00:10:00] unfortunately the, they are protected so that we can’t just actually physically remove them. We have to put up one way devices to let them leave. And big thing that people don’t realize is houses are not made to keep wildlife out. They’re made and built to keep, you know, the inside climatized for you.
They’re made and built to keep the moisture, you know, away when it rains, but they are not built to keep wildlife or pests out. There’s those between a crawl space or an attic. There’s all kinds of gaps that allow for pests from the smallest, you know, ants all the way up to I’ve seen brand new houses with gaps big enough to let full-size raccoons in.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh man.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: Yep. It’s incredible. We see it all the time that it’s really just about how the houses are built that allows these animals to get in.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. I got you. Raccoons. Those are pretty good size.
Robert Weaver: Yeah. They can get into anything. A whole, A hole has to be about the size of a softball for them to squeeze through and then they can, [00:11:00] if they can get their head through, they’ll squeeze the rest of their body through.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh my goodness. That is interesting. So the, I guess, what is the most interesting thing you’ve had to try to remove from a house or a business when you were doing commercial?
Robert Weaver: So bats has been the most surprising, I guess in numbers. We’ve dealt with a a medical facility here in Johnston County that had a couple thousand bats in it that we removed. Oh yeah, it, when it hit the thousand mark on us when we were videoing it in the evening, whether they were coming out, we were just kind of astonished to how many were in there.
Jonathan Breeden: Golly, that’s a lot of bats
Robert Weaver: You don’t realize it. Yeah. That how many can be in there and you don’t see ’em. You might be able to hear ’em or smell ’em, but they get piled in on top of each other. So that was quite interesting on that side of it the hardest thing for me probably was trying to get a groundhog out of a engine bay of a car it was in there, just, it would not let go and get go away. So I spend I think an hour, a little over an hour [00:12:00] trying to get a groundhog out of the engine area of the car.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh my goodness. So do you try to capture all these animals alive?
Robert Weaver: So we follow all North Carolina state laws. So
Jonathan Breeden: okay
Robert Weaver: it really just depends on, you know, the sit situation and everything else. We try to do everything as humanely as possible. And I say that ’cause like putting a squirrel trap on a roof in the middle of the summertime’s, not very humane if you’re not gonna be able to get there within a couple minutes.
Jonathan Breeden: Right, right.
Robert Weaver: But we try to as much as possible, but we do have to follow NC State laws.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. I gotcha man. That’s interesting. Alright, so, and if you, as your business grows down east, you said you would probably, do you have to go to training? Like, like, I mean is there training, I mean, I know you had a job and they sort of taught you how to catch birds at Walmart, but like is there, like, are there courses for this? Is there online or certificates?
Robert Weaver: Yes. So on the wildlife side to just do it in North Carolina, there’s a [00:13:00] two day course through the state. You have to go do and take a test on. It’s the Wildlife Damage Control Agent course put on through the North Carolina wildlife Resources Commission.
It’s a pretty good course. You know, you’re not gonna become an expert out of it, that’s for sure though.
Jonathan Breeden: Right.
Robert Weaver: We pride ourselves on sending our guys to a lot of industry. Courses as well. We want to be the top-notch wildlife company in the area, so we send our guys to NWCOA, which is the National Wildlife Control Operators Association.
It’s the Wildlife Association for us, and they have a lot of industry training and certi certifications that we get our guys to go through.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: To try to stay on top of it.
Jonathan Breeden: What about foxes and bobcats?
Robert Weaver: So we do get calls.
Jonathan Breeden: There’s Some in our neighborhood.
Robert Weaver: Yeah. We don’t get so many calls for bobcats being that they try usually like to hide in like denser wooded areas.
They don’t usually come out into you, into HOAs as much.
Jonathan Breeden: Right.
Robert Weaver: Foxes on the other hand are quite different. We will see a lot of grays [00:14:00] and reds around houses. Coyotes have pushed them closer to houses where coyotes will stay a little bit further away typically. Foxes can go ahead and put a dent underneath the porch ’cause they know it’s safer.
We do deal with ’em. We try to evict them if possible. First, meaning like, we’ll put in one-way devices, kick ’em out of areas like secure areas around, like sheds, stuff like that to keep ’em out.
Jonathan Breeden: What’s a one-way device? You’ve said that twice now? Yeah.
Robert Weaver: So it’s different depending on the critter, but it is basically a one-way door. So when they come out of it the flap or whatever the device is, depending on the animal closes, so they can’t get back in after they leave. So, we’re able to let them go on, find a new home on their own, which is always the best case scenario for wildlife, and then we can seal it up and prevent them forever getting back in.
Jonathan Breeden: Are foxes dangerous to humans, children, pets? In general or can they be, I mean, know they rabies, but I’m just curious. Like it’s a fox something I [00:15:00] should be afraid of because they’re not a lot bigger than some dogs.
Robert Weaver: Yeah. They’re definitely small and in most cases, the only time that we really see them being aggressive is when they’re rabid on that side of it. They can become used or can get used to being around humans, which can always throw off. The natural demeanor on there or that natural fear that they should have. That’s why you should never feed animals. You bring them in, we see raccoons being fed, they come up to the porches, all that, and then eventually they’re not afraid of humans and they may bite you even though they’re not sick.
And you, once that happens, they have to get tested. So they’ll have to be euthanized and tested for, right? So I, foxes in general shouldn’t be, you shouldn’t be afraid of them, but you should respect all wildlife. Keep a good distance from ’em. Not try to feed them or handle ’em and they,
Jonathan Breeden: right
Robert Weaver: yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Do you do snakes?
Robert Weaver: We do, yes.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. Alright. Now I guess snakes get in crawl spaces too and get in attics.
Robert Weaver: Yeah. Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: I mean, they’re quite resourceful, I think.
Robert Weaver: They are. [00:16:00] They are. So they’re gonna go wherever the food is. So any wildlife species that’s out there is gonna go look looking for food, water, or shelter.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: Mainly when we see snakes inside of a house, usually it indicates some type of other small problem going on.
A lot of times it’s gonna be rodent problems. You have mice, snakes want an easy meal, they’re gonna come in for it.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay?
Robert Weaver: So if you’ve ever had a mouse in your house, you can have a snake in your house and that’s where people get a little freaked out when they have a snake lives going down their hallway.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. That’s a scary thought.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Hopefully that won’t happen.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: So, but if I have pest control, in theory, I shouldn’t have mouse my mice or
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Mouses is not, but anyway, shouldn’t not have mice in my house. So I guess that’s, that will transition to the second part of your business, which is pest control services.
Robert Weaver: Yeah, so we added pest control in it wouldn’t be 2023 into our services. So we are wildlife only in the beginning. But we did find that you know, some pest control companies [00:17:00] weren’t aware of wildlife species and all the signs that were there and weren’t diagnosing issues properly from our side of it.
And as much as we, love, education and learning as much as we can within our company. We knew that we could provide a little bit of a better service there. Showing them, you know, we’ve had situations where a pest control company was telling somebody that they had a mouse problem in their attic.
There was a pile of droppings in the middle of the attic. You know, they put a bait station up there. The droppings kept coming. They called us in to do an inspection. They said, well, my pest control company said it’s a good sign that there’s more and more droppings showing up means they’re going to the bait station to eat it.
And I said, no, it’s the bats there sitting right above your bait station. So, so it, it, being able to diagnose what the actual issue is, what the reason, the issue is there. And ensuring it goes away was why we started doing that transition over. ’cause we [00:18:00] knew especially on the rodent side, that it wasn’t being done properly.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. So, you spray for all types of pests?
Robert Weaver: We do, We do all the pests. Anything, like I said, from the ants all the way up to the roaches and we do bed bugs termite, all of it.
Jonathan Breeden: Right.
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Jonathan Breeden: And do you, I guess like most pest control put people on a monthly or bimonthly subscription. You come by for 30 minutes. De web what’s going on?
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Look for signs of rodent and spray something, I guess.
Robert Weaver: Yeah. So, and I mean, we would like to have a relationship with our customers on that side of it. ’cause we wanna know what they’re seeing. Not every chemical’s the same. We do [00:19:00] run a little bit different where all our chemicals within our truck, you know, we carry a lot of different things so we can treat every house.
House the way it needs to be treated. We look at it like if you were a doctor and just prescribed one medication across the board to every patient, no matter what they have. And that’s what a lot of pest control companies will do out there. We wanna get out there, do a quick assessment of the house, have a conversation with the customer, and then use the chemical that’s appropriate for what they’re seeing or their neighborhood and all that.
And then we spray it and treat it as necessary.
Jonathan Breeden: What’s the best way to get rid of Silverfish?
Robert Weaver: Silverfish? that,
Jonathan Breeden: That, that seems to be the thing that gets in my house more than anything else.
Robert Weaver: Yeah. So I mean, that’s always a sign of some moisture issues. I mean, exterior perimeter if they’re coming in from that side. But it could be that they’ve already taken up residence somewhere within the house itself. A good, good, thorough inspection of the house to figure out where that problem’s coming from, whether it’s crossing the barrier of your house or if they’re already inside the house. So if you do a perimeter [00:20:00] treatment on a house.
But they’re breeding within the house somewhere. That perimeter treatment is never gonna do anything.
Jonathan Breeden: That’s a good point. That’s a good point. We haven’t had as many lately. I know they like cardboard. They do. So, so if they can get into your attic where you got boxes, they’re like happier in a pig and slop there.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: So anyway I mean, they’re not really harmful. They’re just kind of there, you know what I’m saying?
Robert Weaver: They actually like the backside of wallboard or drywall. ’cause it has that cardboard or you know, that paper that’s on the back of the same idea.
Jonathan Breeden: Right.
Robert Weaver: So they’ll chew that off. As well.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh, that’s interesting. The do y’all do termites?
Robert Weaver: We do, yes.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. So what do y’all provide for termites?
Robert Weaver: So, I, it depends on the situation we want to get out there. There are bait stations that we use, and that’s a proactive approach, and we are able to monitor on a regular basis. When we go out there, we can see if there’s activity.
The good thing about a bait station is when termites come in, they take the bait, they take it back to the colony and kills the whole colony. Liquid treatment around the house, you know is definitely a technique that works, you know, and is [00:21:00] very good on or used for. If you have an active infestation or anything like that, obviously you can’t monitor to see how it’s going though.
So that’s the nice thing about the bait stations over that. And so if we’re going in where somebody has active termites, we want to get in there with the liquid kill the termites that are on the house and then go from there.
Jonathan Breeden: Right. And do y’all provide a. I, I used try to use the word bond, but a termite, yeah, I don’t know, a certificate that could pass when you sell the house and stuff like that.
Robert Weaver: So yes, we do warranty all our work on that side. So whenever we do have termite work, I mean, it’s in our contract how it will go in whether it’s like an we will do an annual reassessment of the house, making sure we’re not seeing anything going on. If you’re a regular pest control customer and you have the termite stations, we’re probably gonna check them a little more frequently.
Just to stay on top and make sure that we won’t see anything.
Jonathan Breeden: How common are termites in this area? You know, I’ve not had a termite problem. With any of the houses I’ve owned in Johnston County. But we definitely [00:22:00] had a termite problem where I grew up
Robert Weaver: Okay
Jonathan Breeden: in Laurinburg. Not too far from here. Yeah. Just curious. Is that a problem in this area?
Robert Weaver: Oh yeah, absolutely. And I mean, it can do more damage than pretty much everything else that we deal with when it comes to your house. So it gets in there and goes unnoticed for years. You don’t want to be the person that finds out you have a termite problem
Jonathan Breeden: right
Robert Weaver: by your house starting to fall apart.
Jonathan Breeden: Right. What are some things you can do to prevent a termite problem, other than hiring a pest control company, to have them regularly inspect, like, what are some things that your average homeowner can do?
Robert Weaver: So keeping termites away is gonna be a little bit of a problem, trying to do it by yourself on that side of it. But keeping wood off the ground as much as possible, making sure that you don’t like leave boards underneath your crawl space and moisture problems in your crawl space are definitely gonna be conducive to bringing in those termites that are gonna want that moisture in the wood there.
So if you go underneath there underneath your crawl space, you’re starting [00:23:00] to see some moist indications of moisture issues. You can see maybe your insulation starting to pull down. It’ll pull down when you have moisture issues. If you have standing water down there, obviously that’s a problem.
Jonathan Breeden: Right. So, I don’t know these things.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Where do termites come from? Do they come down the street? Like do they, Do they come? I mean, like, how do they get there?
Robert Weaver: So they’re always in the ground. They’re always out there foraging.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. So they’re in the ground.
Robert Weaver: They’re in the ground.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: So they’re always out there. They’re always far foraging though, so even when they find a food source, they’re always looking for their next food source. ’cause they don’t know when one’s gonna end.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: So when you have a colony on your yard and a typical yard will have a colony on it, it’s just whether it comes down to your house or not.
Jonathan Breeden: Ah, okay.
Robert Weaver: So, I mean, they’re out there all over the place, you know, and they’re, they do great things and they break down your the debris in the forest, all that stuff. The problem is when they’re trying to break down your house,
Jonathan Breeden: right? Right
Robert Weaver: it becomes a problem.
Jonathan Breeden: Right? So do they eat anything other than [00:24:00] wood?
Robert Weaver: So they eat the cell, cellulose materials. So anything that’s gonna be like that. So if you leave cardboard, like we were talking about on the ground, you’ll find termites going and starting to attack that after a while. So if you put those types of things in your crawl space, we’ve seen it in garages too.
They’ll come up in garages where people put cardboard boxes and they’ll start eating the cardboard boxes within the garage coming from the crack.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay, well that explains why the termite company, I had one time drilled a hole in the. They drilled a hole in the garage floor.
Robert Weaver: Yep. The slab. Yep. To get a tree underneath the garage.
Jonathan Breeden: Yep. Okay. Well that would explain that. Yep. Okay. Well I find that all fascinating. I could talk to Robert Weaver all day about all these animals. Now I’m gonna go home and I’m not gonna be able to sleep because I’m gonna start thinking that I have squirrels and bats and snakes in my house, which I don’t you. You know what I mean?
Robert Weaver: Absolutely.
Jonathan Breeden: But I’m gonna be thinking about it. I’m gonna go start looking ’cause I’m a little OCD. It’ll be like, okay, like do I have these animals in my house? Am I gonna have to call Freedom Wildlife Solutions or not? So anyway just ask you a quick question [00:25:00] here before we wrap up about. I met you through Launch JoCo.
Robert Weaver: Yes.
Jonathan Breeden: Why did you choose to get involved with Launch Joco and what did it provide? It’s a sort of a, for people listening we’ve talked about a lot on this podcast. It’s a class for new businesses. It’s almost like a little business incubator where they get some instruction and then they get placed with a mentor who works with them individually for six or nine months, and it helps get businesses.
You know, it helps ’em grow. Yeah. You know, these businesses already exist. They’re not like starting, but it helps ’em grow. Why did you choose to get involved in it? Because, I mean, clearly you’re already very successful.
Robert Weaver: Yeah, so I got out of the truck a little over a year ago now where I’m not out there running routes all the time or doing any of the hard labor that my guys are out there doing every day.
When I got outta the truck though, I didn’t know what to do anymore. I knew how to catch things. I knew how to treat and find prob, figure out what problems were. But when you go back to diagnose what’s going on with your business, I didn’t know where to start. I knew I wanted to continue to grow my business.
I know I wanted to continue to grow as long as I can and as [00:26:00] big as I can to give my guys and my team opportunity to be able to grow within my company. So. I went there trying to figure out how to become the best business owner I could, you know, that’s, that was my starting point on that. And this journey on transitioning from, you know, being a great technician over to being a great business owner and leader.
Jonathan Breeden: Well, that’s cool. That’s cool. And yeah. You enjoyed it.
Robert Weaver: Absolutely.
Jonathan Breeden: You know, I’ve, you met people who are not meet me.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: I’ve met you. Like I, I’ve found it to be fa I’ve, I’ve ly fascinating.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: I wish I could have worked with every single person I met there.
Robert Weaver: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Working with Houston Colson, who’s a previous guest on the podcast of Roof Steppers, go back and listen to that episode. It’s really good. All about roofing and mistakes homeowners make and choosing a roofer. We answered those questions on that podcast. So I guess the I mean, so I mean, how many employees do you have now and you know, what service areas do y’all service?
Robert Weaver: So right now we have 13 people within our company on payroll. It’s split between our inspectors, [00:27:00] our like actual wildlife technicians, and then our pest technicians. And then we have two people in the office.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: Answering the phones and making sure we, we get out there as soon as possible when people have an emergency.
Jonathan Breeden: Right. So do you serve you 24/7?
Robert Weaver: So we are not 24/7.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: Yeah, we, we go from eight to seven from for our office hours on it Monday through Friday.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: The we Service we started with just Wake, Harnett, and Johnston County, but we’ve added several since there. We’re now in Durham, Wilson, Wayne, Nash, Lee, Cumberland County as well.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh man. You like to drive?
Robert Weaver: We do, but one wildlife job can take all day. So we go out there, we’re doing the job and then coming home if our wildlife work it, it makes sense.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay.
Robert Weaver: A pest side we’re running them a little ragged right now.
Jonathan Breeden: Right. I can understand that. Well, that’s great. That’s great.
So how people can people reach out to you and Freedom Wildlife Solutions?
Robert Weaver: Yeah, so you can contact us through our website at [00:28:00] freedomwildlifesolutions.com. You can give us a direct call at ( (919) 584-8650. We’re on all the social media platforms out there. So anyway,
Jonathan Breeden: and you’d be willing to go speak to community groups?
Robert Weaver: Oh yeah, absolutely
Jonathan Breeden: churches about what you do, how they can. Right. I mean, ’cause part of your thing is education.
Robert Weaver: Absolutely.
Jonathan Breeden: I mean, it’s not just helping, but like, but you’re big on education.
Robert Weaver: Yes.
Jonathan Breeden: I know your wife’s involved as well.
Robert Weaver: Yes.
Jonathan Breeden: So you’re willing to speak to groups, school groups, anybody
Robert Weaver: Oh yeah
Jonathan Breeden: that would like to learn about wildlife and how to prevent them getting in and the humane treatment of ’em and stuff like that. You’d be glad to talk to ’em, wouldn’t you?
Robert Weaver: Absolutely. We’ll be happy to.
Jonathan Breeden: Right. it’s fascinating. Like, like you, I tell Robert Weaver and an hour go by and it’s like, it’s just nothing because I don’t know anything about it, right?
I grew up in the suburbs. I don’t hunt, I don’t fish. I don’t know anything. I got like a pest control company. So, you know, the thought that you could go do all the things you do and enjoy it, which would scare me to death is fascinating to me. So the last [00:29:00] question I ask everybody on this podcast is, what do you love most about Johnston County?
Robert Weaver: You know, I love the small town feel of Johnston County. You know, the, even as they’re growing, they’re still holding that throughout the towns. Living in Clayton, I, where I grew up, I grew up, up north left with the military. I definitely did not have the small town feel up there. So that’s such a great feeling to have down here.
And I love it every day.
Jonathan Breeden: Well, that’s great. That’s great. And a lot of people say the small town feel. The people
Robert Weaver: yeah
Jonathan Breeden: you know, that’s what makes Johnston County great
Robert Weaver: it does
Jonathan Breeden: community. Anybody doing anything to help you, you know, people you don’t even know will help you.
Robert Weaver: Absolutely.
Jonathan Breeden: I mean, it’s very friendly and that’s what makes it great.
So anyway, we’d like to thank Robert Weaver Freedom Wildlife Solutions for being our guest on this week’s episode of The Best of Johnston County Podcast. Feel free to reach out to him at freedomwildlifesolutions.com and all of his social media channels will be glad to come and speak to your community, group, your church, group, your school about what he does and how you can prevent some of this and they can help you if you have a [00:30:00] problem with wildlife in your home or in your business.
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One of my favorite parts of hosting The Best of Johnston County Podcast is learning about jobs I never even knew existed — and the people who are quietly making our community safer, smarter, and sometimes… a little less wild.
In this week’s episode, I sat down with Robert Weaver, the founder of Freedom Wildlife Solutions and Pest Control right here in Clayton. Robert’s journey from military service to wildlife trapping and pest control is one of the most fascinating I’ve heard in over 85 episodes.
He’s the guy you call when there’s a squirrel in your attic, a snake in your crawlspace, or (heaven help you) thousands of bats in a medical facility — yes, really.
From Soldier to Bird Catcher at Walmart
Robert served in the military for 12 years before transitioning into civilian life. After moving out to this area from Fort Bragg, he found a job that’s honestly hard to picture unless you’ve seen it with your own eyes: catching birds inside Walmarts.
“My job was to show up and get those birds out of Walmart within three hours,” he told me.
Using a patented live-catch net on a special pole, Robert could get a net up and running within 20 minutes of entering the store — all by himself.
That job eventually led to a wildlife license, and he started doing residential animal removal on the side with his employer’s blessing. Before long, business was booming, and he and his wife had a decision to make: keep juggling both jobs, or go all-in.
They went all-in. And that decision has made a major impact on our community.
Bats, Squirrels, Foxes — and Some Surprises
Robert and his team handle all kinds of wildlife — from bats and squirrels to raccoons, snakes, and even the occasional groundhog hiding in a car engine.
Here are just a few things I learned during our conversation:
- Bats are protected in NC between May 1 and July 31, so if they’re in your attic, they have to stay put until breeding season ends. That said, Robert’s team can inspect and seal other openings in the meantime.
- Squirrels are shockingly adaptable. First-generation attic invaders bring in leaves and twigs. After a few generations? They go straight for your insulation.
- Foxes are showing up more as coyotes push them closer to neighborhoods. Robert says they’ll often burrow under porches and sheds, but can be “evicted” humanely with a one-way device that lets them leave but not return.
He even gave me a few bird-removal tips for my own garage, which I’ll definitely be trying next time: darken the garage, brighten the outside, and guide them out gently using a bag on a pole.
Wildlife Wisdom from Robert
I walked away from this episode with some great homeowner tips. Here are a few that really stuck with me:
- Make your roof harder to reach. Trim back any trees or bushes touching your roof — squirrels use them as on-ramps to your attic.
- Snakes go where the mice are. If you’ve had a mouse problem, don’t be surprised if a snake shows up next. They’re just looking for dinner.
- Moisture invites trouble. Silverfish, termites, and other pests love damp crawlspaces and attics. If you see signs of moisture, don’t wait to fix it.
- Cardboard attracts pests. Silverfish and termites will chew through cardboard, insulation, and even the paper backing on drywall. Keep storage off the floor and dry.
- Termites are already in your yard. They’re in the soil, constantly foraging — it’s just a matter of time before they find your home if you don’t have protection.
Why Robert Added Pest Control to the Mix
For years, Freedom Wildlife Solutions focused exclusively on wildlife. But in 2023, they added full-service pest control, and Robert explained exactly why:
“Some pest companies were missing what the problem really was. We were called in after the fact and kept finding misdiagnosed issues.”
His team now takes a more tailored approach: talk to the homeowner, inspect the space, and treat using the right solution for that home, not just a blanket spray.
“If you were a doctor, you wouldn’t prescribe the same thing to every patient,” he told me. “We don’t do that either.”
Termite Talk: The Scariest (and Most Invisible) Problem
We talked a lot about termites. I wanted to know how common they are in Johnston County, and Robert didn’t sugarcoat it:
“They’re already in your yard. It’s just whether they come to your house or not.”
They eat cellulose — wood, paper, cardboard — and they’re active long before you ever notice them. Robert’s team uses both liquid treatments (to kill active infestations) and bait stations (to monitor and eliminate colonies before they spread).
The worst part? Most people don’t know they have termites until the damage is done.
From Catching Critters to Leading a Team
When Robert stepped out of the field and stopped doing the hands-on work himself, he realized something surprising: he didn’t know how to run a business.
That’s what led him to launch JoCo, a local business development program that helps small business owners grow and lead with confidence.
“I knew how to catch things. But diagnosing a business? I had no idea where to start.”
Now he’s focused on scaling Freedom Wildlife Solutions with a mission to grow not just for himself, but for his team.
Today, the company has 13 people — including wildlife and pest technicians, inspectors, and office staff — and serves customers across Johnston, Wake, Harnett, Durham, Wilson, Wayne, Nash, Lee, and Cumberland counties.
Small-Town Heart. Big Reach.
I ended the interview by asking Robert what he loves most about Johnston County — and like so many of my guests, his answer came easily:
“The small-town feel. People help each other here. Even people they don’t know.”
That spirit of community is what makes Johnston County great. And folks like Robert — who quietly crawl into the attics, crawlspaces, and engine bays most of us try not to think about — make it even better.
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Connect with Robert Weaver:
- Website: FreedomWildLifeSolutions.com
- Phone: (919) 584-8650
Connect with Jonathan Breeden:
- Website: https://www.breedenfirm.com/
- Phone Number: Call (919) 726-0578
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BestofJoCoPodcast